I copied this form the CAS City forum. This is one of the first Uberti made replicas that Val Forgett had imported. Remingtons bullet had a slight shoulder, which was part of the problem. Model:Replica Remington Rolling Block Pistol, Year of Manufacture:1975, Italian date code AA, Action Type:Single-Shot Rolling-Block style Pistol with Extractor. T^;y} 4E There are some light nicks, scuffs and handling marks on the pistols metal surfaces. Italian made cap and ball sixguns have a variety of markings that denote the year of manufacture, the proof houses where it was tested and the manufacturers . This restriction is made under protest, but we have to do this to comply with Californias infringement on the freedoms of speech and association of the NRA and our members, supporters, and the general public. Bore Condition:The bore is mostly bright with sharp rifling. Got an older Navy Arms Remington "Zouave" with barrel mfg. 0000012277 00000 n startxref 0000006039 00000 n Strong main spring. Uberti USA Quality Firearm Replicas | Uberti USA Replica Rifles and Then I saw a Henry Repeating Arms 1860 Original and absolutely fell in love. First Year of Production Navy Arms, 1851 Navy Revolver Copyright 2023 Aceville Publications Ltd. All of these reproductions will also be marked ITALY or MADE IN ITALY, along with a serial number, calibre and, in the case of Uberti and Pedersoli, often a catalogue number. 0000007839 00000 n The cylinderis marked 55 and the Serial No. Recoil was not an issue. Dear Friends, Uberti's first production gun was a Colt 1851 in 1959 so the date code would have been "XV". 0000080946 00000 n The Beretta family can trace their gunmaking roots in this region back almost five hundred years. I hope it's at least a little bit of a lead." and another from oour friend Prarie Dawg: 1940 1953 IX 1966 XXII 1979 AE 1992 BB 2005 BZ 2018 CT. In the early days of the Navy Arms / Uberti connection, Gregorelli actually produced the metal . In our October 2015 issue, we took a hard look at the Henry Repeating Arms Original Rifle in a test that included a Winchester 1892, both rifles in 44-40 WCF. Cylinder tight when trigger pulled all the way back. Uberti Date Code | The Muzzleloading Forum The chart will enable you to determine the date your gun was proved. The rifle had the caliber marked just behind the rear sight on top of the barrel as 45 COLT. The left side of the barrel had the importers name and Ubertis name tastefully small. trailer << /Size 67 /Info 20 0 R /Root 23 0 R /Prev 117549 /ID[<3013820267cc20c18f38ceb2ef54c0c3>] >> startxref 0 %%EOF 23 0 obj << /Type /Catalog /Pages 19 0 R /Metadata 21 0 R /AcroForm 24 0 R >> endobj 24 0 obj << /Fields [ ] /DR << /Font << /ZaDb 16 0 R /Helv 17 0 R >> /Encoding << /PDFDocEncoding 18 0 R >> >> /DA (/Helv 0 Tf 0 g ) >> endobj 65 0 obj << /S 98 /V 209 /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 66 0 R >> stream Any information or ideas on this gun would be greatly appreciated. 0000006802 00000 n I was recently given an Italian made.58 Remington 1863 "Zouave". The walnut stock had some lovely tiger-striping in it that our photos might not pick up, and inletting was excellent. 1860." it is scratched badly with sand paper in a horrible restore. 0000051711 00000 n 0000005921 00000 n The above manufacturers turn out tens of thousands of firearms each year and most, if not all, of these weapons are copies of those used and made in nineteenth century America. The letter is signed by Maria Laura Uberti of Uberti USA, Inc. and states that these revolvers were made for Colt Firearms as prototypes by my father Aldo Uberti. The Italian proof marks should have a rectangular or square box with a date code in it. If you can send some pics of the guns and close ups of the marks to the magazine they should forward them to me and I may be able to help. Top of the barrel says "wesson" right side, looking down range says .50 cal black powder only. I was born there LO these many years ago, but in 1977 I came to the United States, and have enjoyed FREEDOMS such as I never dreamed of as a British SUBJSCT! The Springfield Trapdoor Cartridge Rifle and Carbine was produced for the military in 1873. xb``e``yhXa`+(y-[6zX8-dRRh i9W@Zu"vl=d*b5,JqXx ,8Pl}C;a>aN )10Zx'@ R3 To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. Wed buy this one instantly if we wanted a brass gun for fun. If you don't Facebook PM me the details of the rifle and I'll make sure he gets it. Very nicely finished. The Springfield Trapdoor held the new, more powerful .45-70 military cartridge. Be advised there are some hot 45 LC loads, such as from Buffalo Bore, that probably ought not to be used in this rifle, certainly not as a steady diet. Length of pull - 13 1/8" (to center of buttplate) Approx. 7) Mark on a recent Euroarms revolver. This stands for Armi Chiappa in reference to Rino Chiappa, the companys founder. A copy of a shipping manifest dated December 23, 1986 from Aldo Uberti & Co. to Colt Industries Firearms Division (Charter Oak Blvd, W. Hartford CT 06119 USA) detailing Italian Goods to be Exported. S/N 7171. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Every lawbreaker we allow into our nation, or tolerate in our citizen population leads to the further escalation of law breaking of all kinds and acceptance of evil. 3l\9/OEK0joW/L242:ORES\";OhBzP%% - eupGHsP/Y$T y&$ iJ.iO7+asMi3>6fV#iBM u*wzY!.biCEy;Z7yA+lpNQFP+dV4N5t i Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. 22 HORNET". The bottom tang has a proof mark with a "U" inside of it. I have 1858 Remington in .36 cal and it has pr eie or rp eie Italy b1766 stamp on the bottom of the grip the other marking say it was made in 1972 I was wondering if any body might be able to tell me what company made it if they can email me at . Reaction score. A. UBERTI & C. GARDONE V.T. Some proof marks on side of frame and the roman numeral XX. ITALY. Unfired. There are no chips or cracks. There were no other markings on the rifle. The Italian proof marks should have a rectangular or square box with a date code in it. 0000052647 00000 n Apart from a cursory glance I suppose many of you will have paid scant attention to the markings on your modern made black powder reproduction. 0000052548 00000 n These revolvers are extremely collectible. Pedersoli have changed their logo a couple of times since the late 1950s but for the last forty or so years it has remained the same. 0000004972 00000 n ASM puts that info on the bottom of the frame adjacent to the barrel lug when the datecodes were alpha characters in a rectangle. {Za%a\#XDs9dE;*ci8=agercR"Vf|^z 96MXKk8}vd+X0L@skz j> 'th,6bB%t%]iNjNyksz+l4 C2&y*8NOalS?E:{'-~+[+GOk-cOcJ( oGljoR_Gb }6[w;vd ! endstream endobj 34 0 obj 782 endobj 35 0 obj << /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 34 0 R >> stream xref 2) It is not unusual to find one or more of the Proof marks lightly stamped. There will be a third mark alongside these two and this indicates the year that the weapon went through the proof house. The top of the barrel is marked A. x4hjF%1I'WVH">^I*Yt} FSYD"}di)IK n!Hhf$=o:k$y}$*&L(\G'zyKdlG?Q\7>>SSV6K#OqDSIpzNh~~ x #=l%l&U ps~31H^$qB^7'0]?Ew#E=9+|uL>k/,xS-7wiN=KqOF` m2; ul_w`N` Lv endstream endobj 36 0 obj 741 endobj 37 0 obj << /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 36 0 R >> stream The bluing was authentic looking. 0000038284 00000 n THE AMERICAN SPIRIT. Whilst the makers marks are there principally for advertising and recognition, the proof marks and serial number are obligatory and will always take the same form. The crest consists of crossed rifles with bayonets and a hammer and anvil. Because I am an Amateur Historian, I carry for Self-Defense, one of three identical five and a half inch barreled, Remington 1858's, in a shoulder holster. The hammer was blued, but the loading lever was case hardened. A copy of a letter dated June 6, 1988 on the Aldo Uberti & Co. letterhead to Kevin Cherry (Cherrys, 2703 High Point Rd., Greensboro, NC 27403) showing the model (all are single action rev.), barrel length (4 , 5 , 7 and 10 inches) and caliber (.44 Mag., .22Conv., .22 LR and .22 CAL), and serial numbers of 65 revolvers. Loading the rifle was easy, by which we mean the follower easily raised the front lock to let the gate swing open without any of the fiddling the Henrys version needed. trailer 0000027918 00000 n California recently rushed through legislation making it unlawful to communicate to those under 18 about broad categories of firearms, parts, and accessories. 0000004871 00000 n I think it is probably a newer reproduction just wanted to check safety of shooting it. Copyright 2023 Aceville Publications Ltd.Registration number: 04109672 | Registered Office Address: 185 Fleet Street, London, England, EC4A 2HS, . From these humble beginnings has grown an industry catering for the needs of shooters, re-enactors and collectors Worldwide. The most famous of these is probably Ubertis representation of the muzzle of an octagonal barrelled gun, showing the front sight and rifling in the barrel, with a letter U in the bore. Behind that were two Italian proof marks. The barrel and cylinder are the usual Uberti black rather than the blue of the originals and the finish is to a high standard, indicating good polishing before the finish was applied. Just wondering what firm F.A.R.A was/is? 0000002052 00000 n By However, the only proof mark I can find that looks like a 'house' proof is on the butt of the gun: a PR where the P and the R are overlapped, right next to the 3-digit serial #. The Old Model started production in 1861 with the slightly improved New Model Army coming out in 1863 . 0000004861 00000 n 0000008415 00000 n The main difference between Taylor's and Cimirron will be the Importer's Marks. Uberti identification | The Firearms Forum We dont think thats necessary, however it looked mighty nice. 0000001989 00000 n The recently introduced line of firearms from Palmetto Arms is marked with the company logo of a palm tree within a circle, sometimes followed by the name, PALMETTO. I guess it could be some other kind.Would like it find out who made it. 0000062843 00000 n PDF Unraveling The Mystery Of Icons - ACWSA Overall Condition:The pistol retains about 95% of its metal finish. The right side of the receiver is marked with the serial number "08270" and features Italian proofs including the date code "AF". We'll start about there. The operation of the action is smooth and the fit of the action's side plates is excellent. If you shoot a reproduction muzzle loading pistol or rifle, the chances are it was made in the Brescia area of northern Italy. With all finishes 100%. While the action was not quite so glossy as the Henry version, it still reflected much like a mirror and was, like the barrel flats, dead flat. 1) An example of a full set of Proof and maker's marks on a Pedersoli pistol. I have often heard it said, more than once by myself, that the markings on these guns could be a little more subtle, especially in the case of an attractive looking piece such as the Uberti Remington New Model army in charcoal blue and case hardened finish. maybe I can get a little more info. any one know who manuf. The largest market for these weapons is the U.S.A. and some of the larger American importers often have their own names stamped on the guns. It will come as no surprise then to find that the Italian Proof House is also in the valley. 0000057470 00000 n The front sight was also identical in contour to the other rifle, and had a flat-topped blade insert of somewhat shiny metal. 0000001537 00000 n The Remington ammo was balky on entering the chamber. Johnnie Roper,Alias:Gunslinger9378. H\@OQEcb{+ nb~{:0|wvrqrkx?:S],\hi~,]#M=m.0Mn6sjZ]e/&oKZ!b>^SM U\bw~tWcV.Y,qd^"+"!b^!{w{=2i3{dad:=Npz:=~E~e~MYxGxGxGxGxGx=SOA>} ix)]'Aa-;O;KGg 6+Rg^vF$^og>XxZaNz:E The markings remain clear. z Sold ~ GREAT DEAL ~ First Year of Production Navy Arms, 1851 Navy Revolver. See Attachment 4. The right side of the chamber is marked "CAL. 35 45 0000039439 00000 n Another well known name here in the UK is that of Pietta, and their logo is a diamond containing the letters FAP often accompanied by the name F.LLI PIETTA. Both these guns are very well made, not junk, both have serial numbers and also say Pat. Uberti set the standard for producing quality replica firearms by which all others are judged. 0000008989 00000 n I have a 62 cal, shield inlay, short stock, palm tree markings, liverpool on the side plate. There is no warning about black powder. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. 0000001196 00000 n 0000036564 00000 n Uberti M1871 .357 Magnum Single-Shot 9.5 Rolling Block Pistol MFD 1980 the one I have is in the 2,000 serial range. This is not one of the standard Pedersoli or Pietta proof marks, nor is it a Uberti proof mark. We did note the edges of just about everything the front gate system, the edges of the magazine cut along the bottom of the rifle, etc. C.-{.-~Q~vVW?[.aMF^fV?4J/:50fb0L@w6l=lMaCFnO,ta#ip:xCr3A?Z[Hi6? Box 275, McGregor, IA 52157, ~ Ring Us at 563-873-2387 or TOll Free at 866-259-9172. Posted February 18, 2016. 0000036933 00000 n To my amazement, I found another Uberti/Colt .22 single action at Collector Firearms' web site . The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. there are no marks anywhere except serial #xxx on bottom of barrel below base pin. I believe Henry Krank may have de-activated examples of these. H|TMs0+Vcv~$C4=[Yb$9?dowy3YY^TO~&nV;r6gReI LiFZj2C&-zR` Two more Rifle models come in the same chamberings (342370 in 44-40 and 342360 in 45 Colt) and have the same barrel lengths as the brass ones, but they display case-hardened frames and levers and blued buttplates and list for $30 more. I think BU decodes to 2004 (you have BZ for both 2004 & 2005), CA for 2006 and CB for 2007. 0000012886 00000 n I have a muzzleloading pistol with IGE on it and says Italy .44 cal. As a result, the NRA is forced to restrict the sending of certain materials and information into California. Y'All take care now!! The left side of the frame has Italian proof marks. revolver, the square with the letters(AE in this case) are only on the bottom of the barrel after the Uberti name and proof marks. thank you. Click Here to log in. any information would be of help. Joseph Rider, Remingtons Chief Designer, modified Geigers design into a pistol in 1866. On the top of the barrel, an inch in front of the rear sight, was "PATENT. .22 Long Rifle" is marked twice around the circumference of the cylinder at the rear along with two proof marks. Manufacturers of Revolver Replicas - Cap and Ball Revolvers My first thoughts are that they may be Section 1 firearms so I would recommend that you go to a local firearms dealer and ask his advice if you do not have them on FAC. 0 was founded in 1959 and has always used a capital U sur-rounded by an octagonal device, which is actually the muzzle of an 1851 Navy . Pending. They made two versions of the Colt 1855 sidehammer revolver, one in .31 calibre and the other in .36. 0000012438 00000 n But when you close the lever to the firing position, that round is not brought up into battery. 10) Uberti name and address stamping from 1975. 79 0 obj <>stream 0000004339 00000 n Overall, the stocks are in Fine condition. [CDATA[*/var out = '',el = document.getElementsByTagName('span'),l = ['>','a','/','<',' 116',' 105',' 46',' 97',' 116',' 116',' 101',' 105',' 112',' 64',' 111',' 102',' 110',' 105','>','\"',' 116',' 105',' 46',' 97',' 116',' 116',' 101',' 105',' 112',' 64',' 111',' 102',' 110',' 105',':','o','t','l','i','a','m','\"','=','f','e','r','h','a ','<'],i = l.length,j = el.length;while (--i >= 0)out += unescape(l[i].replace(/^\s\s*/, '&#'));while (--j >= 0)if (el[j].getAttribute('data-eeEncEmail_mePVxTdjTo'))el[j].innerHTML = out;/*]]>*/, I am trying to identify and find the value of a Pietta black powder pistol that was given to me. This is the black powder mark and will be found only on black powder weapons. 0000007642 00000 n Without photographs of all of the marks on the pistol it is difficult to identify - see my reply above. In fact, if you leave the lever partly open, its possible to shove the carrier down so it can catch the first round loaded. The only marks are "NAVY ARMS CO" on the left side of the frame and on the barrel top flat, on the right side of the barrel "MADE IN ITALY" and the letters "GU" in script. The edges between them were sharp enough and, sighting along the flats, we found them to be dead level. River Junction Trade Co, 312 Main Street, P.O. While the stock finish was mighty hard, it had none of the milkiness that Henrys rifle had. Another Brescia based company, Armi Sport, marks their guns with AC within a circle. 0000039614 00000 n 1) An example of a full set of Proof and makers marks on a Pedersoli pistol. Looks like if they were they would have had to do the entire gun, there are no deep gouges or deep file marks anywhere other than it looking worn. Delivery of item will be in 3 - 6 business days to Continental USA. This one seems to be an older mfg., very high quality lock action. The collective knowledge of the members of this Forum, must total several hundred years. Pit Bull Tex When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. For all practical purposes, the import of Italian replica cartridge sixguns started in 1962. There, you should find a roman numeral or two character alphabetical stamp. We found the barrel flats to be properly done. 0000011024 00000 n 12) Pedersoli sometimes stamp their name on the inside of the lock. There are already a number of these fakes out there, just waiting for the unwary and uninformed, and there are those who would welcome the opportunity to provide even more. Our first glance at the Uberti test model was extremely satisfying. Derek Landers, I have one single shot black powder handgun, percussion, brass frame steel barrel. I bought a 36 Cal. 2) It is not unusual to find one or more of the Proof marks lightly stamped. It has a brass frame, trigger guard and back strap, 1851 style -no top strap. 0000003080 00000 n 0000005051 00000 n Perfect timing. All the controls worked smoothly, and our range session was most pleasant. 0000007017 00000 n 0000105711 00000 n You are using an out of date browser. 0000011515 00000 n Italy - Shotguns Recently bought a Uberti Walker with a CB date code, so I'm pretty sure about those last two codes. The right side of the frame is marked . The rear sight is a square-notch leaf and elevator dovetailed to the rear of the barrel. -Ec]]`iBd[&QE~t|J3Wva64v0-uy6Owi.x1:y14y=l*^>rv^)eO>S^)zy^Qp.6CTZ=_"qU[f!=xKw2"+pMlb/}-g%0_/3LA0G#%gC_`uC/}uEpV:+kk 0000005072 00000 n 0000105108 00000 n black powder side by side deringer And it has no markings, How can a guy find out who makes it?? 1860. The top tang of the action held the designation MOD. The major manufacturers could not meet the demand and American distributors wanted more of and different models of what were being produced. . Simi Valley, CA 93065. They were produced by Gregorelli and Uberti. Make: Uberti. Both made in 1976 it has markings but no manufacture marks I would like to know who made them ? I find the Uberti's closer to the originals , and the new CNC forged frames appeal to my idea of greater strength & closer tolerances. The most visible change is the change from a crown to a star 1950 so crown and PSF is from the time between 1923 and 1950. Listed were 65 breech load revolvers (Stallion, Cattleman, Buckhorn and Phantom model names) and one muzzle load revolver Paterson prototype. 0000001474 00000 n Their health and their love.I love The people I have gotten to meet in sass and the ones that have just talked to on the wire.I do like to shoot and pick on people at the shoot.I love the hugs I get and the ones I will get when I meet some on you people. 0000050678 00000 n 0000010481 00000 n To become a member $3 for one day $7 one month or $15 one year, One-of-a-Kinds ~ Antique and Collectibles, Metal Shank Buttons with Victorian Design. The website has it right at 13. It was a redesign of the Army's Allin Trapdoor rifle. What others? was founded in 1959 and has always used a capital U sur-rounded by an octagonal device, which is actually the muzzle of an 1851 Navy . There were no failures to feed, fire, or eject. These letters will sometimes be found in a circle. Italian reproduction date markings - SASS Wire Forum gSchf41,%0&nMF;RD}|MY3-!!6m"m._Z8eGW7F]_[jGFS/`L{U\_&?4c@4xhZ+FGmLQA!^D9`xk'3'SL`AbE39a1Xl72t1Hl>|l lX3r7 @^o5I+u`,cB|H^iaPcbxW|)skz5UXx?8|qAo:"QUvbsd,!BD_Z6R'z~oAWF|1b+Q5,J[D:Spx%Ojoqo[$4gxcX-)I._[2$)Kfk4Z?X-DNP[I1bv(~SE_m6#O.
Philip Davis Obituary,
Kumbhare Surname Caste,
Colors Not To Wear To A Vietnamese Wedding,
Pine Valley Golf Auction,
Articles U